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Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby ursosju25 » Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:04:15 GMT

BE STOPPED!!!

There is no other way to put this folks. This is the most dangerous piece of legislation to come across the senate in a very long time. This will possibly put the final nail in the coffin on our economy. The far left must be stopped when it comes to this bill!!!



* Voinovich (OH): 202-224-3353 http://voinovich.senate.gov/public/inde ... ontactForm
* Brown (OH): 202-224-2315 http://brown.senate.gov/contact/
* Luger (IN): 202-224-4814
* Bayn (IN): 202-224-5623
* McConnell (KY): 202-224-2541
* Bunning (KY): 202-224-4343
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Re: Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby ursosju25 » Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:13:41 GMT

Why this doesn''t surprise me:

Sen. Inhofe Calls for Inquiry Into 'Suppressed' Climate Change Report
Republicans are raising questions about why the EPA apparently dismissed an analyst's report questioning the science behind global warming.


EPA analyst Alan Carlin raised questions about the impact of global warming on areas like Greenland. Shown here is an iceberg off Ammassalik Island, Greenland. (AP Photo)

EPA analyst Alan Carlin raised questions about the impact of global warming on areas like Greenland. Shown here is an iceberg off Ammassalik Island, Greenland. (AP Photo)
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A top Republican senator has ordered an investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency's alleged suppression of a report that questioned the science behind global warming.

The 98-page report, co-authored by EPA analyst Alan Carlin, pushed back on the prospect of regulating gases like carbon dioxide as a way to reduce global warming. Carlin's report argued that the information the EPA was using was out of date, and that even as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have increased, global temperatures have declined.

"He came out with the truth. They don't want the truth at the EPA," Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., a global warming skeptic, told FOX News, saying he's ordered an investigation. "We're going to expose it."

The controversy comes after the House of Representatives passed a landmark bill to regulate greenhouse gas emissions, one that Inhofe said will be "dead on arrival" in the Senate despite President Obama's energy adviser voicing confidence in the measure.

According to internal e-mails that have been made public by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, Carlin's boss told him in March that his material would not be incorporated into a broader EPA finding and ordered Carlin to stop working on the climate change issue. The draft EPA finding released in April lists six greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, that the EPA says threaten public health and welfare.

An EPA official told FOXNews.com on Monday that Carlin, who is an economist -- not a scientist -- included "no original research" in his report. The official said that Carlin "has not been muzzled in the agency at all," but stressed that his report was entirely "unsolicited."

"It was something that he did on his own," the official said. "Though he was not qualified, his manager indulged him and allowed him on agency time to draft up ... a set of comments."

Despite the EPA official's remarks, Carlin told FOXNews.com on Monday that his boss, National Center for Environmental Economics Director Al McGartland, appeared to be pressured into reassigning him.

Carlin said he doesn't know whether the White House intervened to suppress his report but claimed it's clear "they would not be happy about it if they knew about it," and that McGartland seemed to be feeling pressure from somewhere up the chain of command.

Carlin said McGartland told him he had to pull him off the climate change issue.

"It was reassigning you or losing my job, and I didn't want to lose my job," Carlin said, paraphrasing what he claimed were McGartland's comments to him. "My inference (was) that he was receiving some sort of higher-level pressure."

Carlin said he personally does not think there is a need to regulate carbon dioxide, since "global temperatures are going down." He said his report expressed a "good bit of doubt" on the connection between the two.

Specifically, the report noted that global temperatures were on a downward trend over the past 11 years, that scientists do not necessarily believe that storms will become more frequent or more intense due to global warming, and that the theory that temperatures will cause Greenland ice to rapidly melt has been "greatly diminished."

Carlin, in a March 16 e-mail, argued that his comments are "valid, significant" and would be critical to the EPA finding.

McGartland, though, wrote back the next day saying he had decided not to forward his comments.

"The administrator and the administration has decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision," he wrote, according to the e-mails released by CEI. "I can only see one impact of your comments given where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office."

He later wrote an e-mail urging Carlin to "move on to other issues and subjects."

"I don't want you to spend any additional EPA time on climate change. No papers, no research, etc., at least until we see what EPA is going to do with climate," McGartland wrote.

The EPA said in a written statement that Carlin's opinions were in fact considered, and that he was not even part of the working group dealing with climate change in the first place.

"Claims that this individual's opinions were not considered or studied are entirely false. This administration and this EPA administrator are fully committed to openness, transparency and science-based decision making," the statement said. "The individual in question is not a scientist and was not part of the working group dealing with this issue. Nevertheless the document he submitted was reviewed by his peers and agency scientists, and information from that report was submitted by his manager to those responsible for developing the proposed endangerment finding. In fact, some ideas from that document are included and addressed in the endangerment finding."

The e-mail exchanges and suggestions of political interference sparked a backlash from Republicans in Congress.

Reps. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., and Darrell Issa, R-Calif., also wrote a letter last week to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson urging the agency to reopen its comment period on the finding. The EPA has since denied the request.

Citing the internal e-mails, the Republican congressmen wrote that the EPA was exhibiting an "agency culture set in a predetermined course."

"It documents at least one instance in which the public was denied access to significant scientific literature and raises substantial questions about what additional evidence may have been suppressed," they wrote.

In a written statement, Issa said the administration is "actively seeking to withhold new data in order to justify a political conclusion."

"I'm sure it was very inconvenient for the EPA to consider a study that contradicted the findings it wanted to reach," Sensenbrenner said in a statement, adding that the "repression" of Carlin's report casts doubt on the entire finding.

Carlin said he's concerned that he's seeing "science being decided at the presidential level."

"Now Mr. Obama is in effect directly or indirectly saying that CO2 causes global temperatures to rise and that we have to do something about it. ... That's normally a scientific judgment and he's in effect judging what the science says," he said. "We need to look at it harder."

The controversy is similar to one under the Bush administration -- only the administration was taking the opposite stance. In that case, scientist James Hansen claimed the administration was trying to keep him from speaking out and calling for reductions in greenhouse gases.
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Re: Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby ursosju25 » Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:43:28 GMT

BUMP!!! I have so against this bill that Obama will lose my approval if this is passed through. I am already extremely skeptical of some of the things he has done. He was a moderate candidate out there on the campaign trail and I identified most with Obama back in November no I don't even think I know the man.
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Re: Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby fixitman » Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:53:12 GMT

OMG!!!!!
What did you expect him to be on the campaign trail, a Liberal? That wouldn't have gotten him elected.
What you should have done was check out his voting record in the U.S. Senate and as an elected official in Illionois!!!!
What part of his "moderation" did you identify with? His views on gun control? Abortion? The environment? Welfare? his "experience"? redistributing the wealth? Gitmo? ACORN? Rev. Wright?
You say he'll lose your approval if this is passed. What approval do you have of him right now? What has he done that you approve of? Kissing the asses of every foreign leader he comes across (of course, he didn't stop at kissing the ass of King Faad (Saudi Arabia), he bowed to him as well)? Ramming through a "stimulus package that nobody believed would work? Backpedaling on Gitmo and gay rights? Staying quiet on Iran's internal troubles? Speaking up on Honduras' internal troubles? Whatever he's doing (or NOT doing) with North Korea? A little light reading with Hugo Chavez? An Ipod for The Queen (but none for HRH Patey)? Socializing GM and Chrysler? FDA controlling cigarettes? Increasing taxes on Cigarettes? Working to socialize healthcare?
I'm against this bill and have contacted my elected officials. But I was NEVER so naive as to believe that Obama was out there to help me or any of us. Liberals love power. It's what they want more than anything. If they can put everyone on welfare and then feed and clothe those people, they can sit around and talk about how great they are and what wonderful things they've done for their fellow human-beings.
Ever heard of "Give a man a fish and he has food for a day. Teach a man to fish and he has food for the rest of his life"? Liberals don't believe in that philosophy. They'd rather take from the "rich" and give to the poor. Of course, they themselves never give as much as us "rich" people!!!!
Steve, I urge you to review his voting record and see where he stood on things before he ran for President. You're eyes may open a little wider afterwards!!!! (How can you tell when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving!!)
I taught him everything I know and he's still stupid. I don't understand it!!!
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Re: Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby ursosju25 » Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:23:09 GMT

UH OH AL!!!!!!!


Earth's 'Fever' Breaks! Global temperatures 'have plunged .74°F since Gore released An Inconvenient Truth'

June 2009 saw another drop in global temps
Sunday, July 05, 2009By Marc Morano – Climate Depot

The latest global averaged satellite temperature data for June 2009 reveals yet another drop in the Earth's temperature. This latest drop in global temperatures means despite his dire warnings, the Earth has cooled .74°F since former Vice President Al Gore released "An Inconvenient Truth" in 2006.

According to the latest global satellite data courtesy of the University of Alabama in Huntsville and made into an easy to read graph by algorelied.com: "For the record, this month's Al Gore / 'An Inconvenient Truth' Index indicates that global temperatures have plunged approximately .74°F (.39°C) since Gore's film was released," noted algorelied.com. (See satellite temperature chart here with key dates noted, courtesy of www.Algorelied.com - Also see: 8 Year Downtrend Continues in Global Temps)

Gore -- who is fond of saying the Earth has a "fever" -- has not yet addressed the simple fact that global temperatures have dropped since the release of his global warming film. (Gore has also not addressed this: Another Moonwalker Defies Gore: NASA Astronaut Dr. Buzz Aldrin rejects global warming fears: 'Climate has been changing for billions of years' - Moonwalkers Defy Gore's Claim That Climate Skeptics Are Akin To Those Who Believe Moon Landing was 'Staged')

A record cool summer has descended upon many parts of the U.S. after predictions of the "year without a summer." There has been no significant global warming since 1995, no warming since 1998 and global cooling for the past few years. (Also see: Scientists Write Open Letter to Congress: 'Earth has been cooling for ten years' - 'Present cooling was NOT predicted by the alarmists' computer models, and has come as an embarrassment to them' - July 1, 2009)

In addition, New peer-reviewed scientific studies now predict a continued lack of global warming for up to three decades as natural climate factors dominate. (See: Climate Fears RIP...for 30 years!? - Global Warming could stop 'for up to 30 years! Warming 'On Hold?...'Could go into hiding for decades' study finds – Discovery.com – March 2, 2009 - And See: 'Global temps have flat lined since 2001...This is nothing like anything we've seen since 1950...Cooling trend could last for up to 30 years' - June 22, 2009 )

This means that today's high school kids being forced to watch Al Gore's “An Inconvenient Truth” – some of them 4 times in 4 different classes – will be nearly eligible for AARP (age 50) retirement group membership by the time warming resumes if these new studies turn out to be correct. (Editor's Note: Claims that warming will “resume” due to explosive heat in the "pipeline" have also been thoroughly debunked. See: Climatologist Dr. Roger Pielke Sr. 'There is no warming in the pipeline' )
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Re: Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby blueblood » Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:34:57 GMT

fixitman wrote:OMG!!!!!
What did you expect him to be on the campaign trail, a Liberal? That wouldn't have gotten him elected.
What you should have done was check out his voting record in the U.S. Senate and as an elected official in Illionois!!!!
What part of his "moderation" did you identify with? His views on gun control? Abortion? The environment? Welfare? his "experience"? redistributing the wealth? Gitmo? ACORN? Rev. Wright?
You say he'll lose your approval if this is passed. What approval do you have of him right now? What has he done that you approve of? Kissing the asses of every foreign leader he comes across (of course, he didn't stop at kissing the ass of King Faad (Saudi Arabia), he bowed to him as well)? Ramming through a "stimulus package that nobody believed would work? Backpedaling on Gitmo and gay rights? Staying quiet on Iran's internal troubles? Speaking up on Honduras' internal troubles? Whatever he's doing (or NOT doing) with North Korea? A little light reading with Hugo Chavez? An Ipod for The Queen (but none for HRH Patey)? Socializing GM and Chrysler? FDA controlling cigarettes? Increasing taxes on Cigarettes? Working to socialize healthcare?
I'm against this bill and have contacted my elected officials. But I was NEVER so naive as to believe that Obama was out there to help me or any of us. Liberals love power. It's what they want more than anything. If they can put everyone on welfare and then feed and clothe those people, they can sit around and talk about how great they are and what wonderful things they've done for their fellow human-beings.
Ever heard of "Give a man a fish and he has food for a day. Teach a man to fish and he has food for the rest of his life"? Liberals don't believe in that philosophy. They'd rather take from the "rich" and give to the poor. Of course, they themselves never give as much as us "rich" people!!!!
Steve, I urge you to review his voting record and see where he stood on things before he ran for President. You're eyes may open a little wider afterwards!!!! (How can you tell when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving!!)


You're not being a good cheerleader!!!!!!!!
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Re: Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby HRHPatey » Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:43:18 GMT

..... and yet he so has the legs for it :wink: :lol:
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Re: Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby kolby » Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:45:13 GMT

HRHPatey wrote:..... and yet he so has the legs for it :wink: :lol:


Maybe he should have been in that new commercial with Danica Patrick.....
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Re: Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby fixitman » Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:46:56 GMT

I'm glad to see someone appreciates my legs!!!!
I'd show off my gams for the opportunity to hang out with Danica. She's purty. :D :lol:
Has this thread on Global Warming (and Urso's politics) really been hyjacked by a conversation involving my legs? :shock:
I taught him everything I know and he's still stupid. I don't understand it!!!
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Re: Call and write you senators!!! The Climate Change Bill must

Postby ursosju25 » Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:18:32 GMT

No problem!! I am just trying to get the truth out!!!
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